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Post by shadow on Jan 4, 2008 18:55:31 GMT -5
Plus! Everyone knows Yellowfang was punished by Starclan for going against the Warrior code by losing two kits, Starclan could have taken mercy on Leafpool, because having kits was part of her huge prophecy and they only made one kit ( Jaypaw) Blind! HA!
Oh and Tigerstar probably visited Jaypaw, in his early Apprentice days, becuase he did not know !
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Post by chellurton on Jan 4, 2008 19:15:17 GMT -5
Tigerstar chose Lionpaw over Jaypaw because Jaypaw chose Yellowfang over Tigerstar. Nightcloud is jealous of Leafpool because she knows Crowfeather's feelings for her never died. The fact that Crowfeather is not from RiverClan doesn't mean he can't swim, it only means he doesn't really like to and isn't very skillful at it. He saved Jaypaw because he was a helpless drowning kit, and any good warrior would have done the same. My own theory on Jaypaw's blindness is that it helps him to better appreciate his connection with StarCaln in his dreams, and his special dream-walking power.
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Post by wildfire on Jan 4, 2008 21:47:33 GMT -5
(this isn't written in order so just bear with me here) oookkkkk....shadow that was rly weird... anyway moving on....first of all, you are not writing the warriors series, just because you thought that happened, doesn't mean it did. Nightcloud was jealous of Leafpool because her mate was in LOVE with Leafpool, not her, and Crowfeather still shares special moments with Leafpool. and I already explained genes, DARK (not brown) EQUALS DARK!!! that means thay both have DARK colored pelts, not brown ones, and Tigerstar and Hawkfrost did visit Jaypaw, he just turned them away, and if they can visit any cat they want, then why don't Tigerstar and Hawkfrost pick a cat before those kits were born? He had plenty of time to and if Brambleclaw will accept him, there are lots of ambitious cats Tigerstar could pick. Leafpool could just been telling Crowfeather to stop hiding from their relationship, and talk to her about it. and if Tigerstar and Hawkfrost don't see EVERYthing, than how did they know Lionpaw was visiting Heatherpaw in the tunnels, and how did they know the COUNTLESS things they knew Brambleclaw was doing. I guess they're just good at picking those moments huh? and you don't get extra privilges in the dark forest you know. Tigerstar was LUCKY to have found a way to talk to Brambleclaw, but that's only because they are kin. if I recall, erin hunter said that Tigerstar could walk with Hawkfrost because they were KIN. couldn't the same rule apply here?and Crowfeather can swim, he just doesn't like water, and are you saying he'd let a blind kit drown because he thought water was 'yucky'? I don't know if you would do that (I'm guessing not) but I wouldn't whether I could swim or not. it's better than watching them drown in front of your eyes. Crowfeather was sad about his new kit because it wasn't Leafpool's kit and he was thinking about how they would've spent their whole life together but didn't. and in Jaypaw's dream, Leafpool never came or had kits or anything. and in his dream SQUIRRELFLIGHT was the only mother around, so I guess he was born, then Leafpool carried him and Hollypaw all the way to wherever Squirrelflight was, set them down and then ran back to camp before anyone noticed. Leafpool and Crowfeather are nervous around eachother because they don't know how to act around eachother anymore. they can't just say 'hey, I love you!' they broke up, which creates awkwardness. How could Squirrelflight's 'pre-mature kit' survive being born that early, with the medicine cat too busy giving birth and no one helping him in the middle of the wild, where a fox could come (drawn by the scent of blood) and kill them all? AND HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS??!! ALL THE CATS WERE 'PLUMP' BRAMBLECLAW JUST POINTED OUT LEAFPOOL BECAUSE SHE'S NORMALLY SKINNY!! READ THE BOOK WOULD YA?? and chellurton, thank you SOOOO much for saying that and you are right, how did this rumor start? Erin made it obvious that Leafpool and Crowfeather are OVER there's no secret kits, or special things or whatever. and it says in the summary of The Sight 'the children of Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw blah blah blah...' and since everyone is noticing SO much of Leafpool and Crowfeather, WHO HAVE BROKEN UP, why don't you notice Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw, who were in love, were allowed to be in love, and were mates, WHICH LEAFPOOL AND CROWFEATHER NEVER BECAME!! THEY WERE LOVERS, BUT WERE NEVER CALLED MATES!! I just can't believe anyone would even start this rumor, there is no proof, there is proof of squirrel+bramble=all the kits, but no proof of leaf+crow=holly & jay. what, did you all suddenly become Erin Hunter? is Erin actually a million people, not just three? or do you know whats going to happen in the warriors series, and I just didn't catch on? WELL IT'S NOT LIKE THAT!! THERE IS NOTHING LEFT FOR CROW X LEAF!! IT'S GONE!! SO WHY DO YOU PEOPLE INSIST ON CLINGING TO IT?? THERE IS NO DARK SECRET OR WHATEVER!! THERE'S SO MUCH PROOF OF HOLLYPAW, JAYPAW, AND LIONPAW BEING SQUIRRELFLIGHT AND BRAMBLECLAW'S KITS, BUT NOTHING BUT ASSUMTIONS AND RUMORS FOR THEM BEING CROWFEATHER AND LEAFPOOL'S KITS!! YOU ARE ALL JUST IN LOVE WITH THE ROMANCE OF CROW X LEAF, SO YOU WANT IT TO KEEP ON GOING WITH SECRET KITS OR WHATEVER!! WELL TOO BAD!! I'M SO SICK OF EVERYONE BEING LIKE "OHH, DID YOU HEAR THAT HOLLYPAW AND JAYPAW ARE CROW AND LEAF'S KITS?" WELL THEY AREN'T!! THERE IS NOTHING THAT WOULD EVEN MAKE ERIN DECIDE FOR THEM TO BE LEAFPOOL'S KITS!! IT WOULDN'T HELP THEM AT ALL!! SO STOP DREAMING PEOPLE AND WAKE UP!! THIS RUMOR IS JUST THE UNSOUND, THOUGHTS OF SOME WISHFUL THINKER!! IT'S JUST A RUMOR!! SO PLEASE, SOMEONE TELL ME WHY YOU ALL BELIEVE IN IT SOOO MUCH?
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Post by wildfire on Jan 4, 2008 21:52:13 GMT -5
I'm glad I got that off my chest.
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Post by shadow on Jan 5, 2008 10:20:41 GMT -5
Ok, look here I NEVER EFFING SAID I WAS WRITING THE WARRIOR SERIES! I said I was writing a fanfic. Jesus! Sorry!! =P
There is a ton of stuff left out between books, it called bridges I think... Anyway I believe it because in the gap between The 2nd series and the 3rd series so much stuff happened, the kits were born, Tawnypelt became pregnant, etc.... There could have been a final romance between Leaf X Crow
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Post by cresentleaf on Jan 5, 2008 13:02:24 GMT -5
shadow you make a good point on the lionpaw tigerstar thing.
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Post by chellurton on Jan 5, 2008 18:02:07 GMT -5
Tigerstar chose Jaypaw. Jaypaw juist turned him away. So he moved on to Lionpaw, who probably seemed more likely to accept him than Hollypaw. If Lionpaw decided to turn Tigerstar away, he would probably move on to Hollypaw in turn.
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Post by wildshadow on Jan 5, 2008 19:22:14 GMT -5
wow... shadow that actually sounds like it could really b true. i think that it's not a coincedence that Jaypaw & hollypaw BOTH look like crowfeather yeah, i agree w/shadow, crowfeather CANT EVEN SWIM AND HE RISKS HIS LIFE TO SAVE JAYPAW!?! WHO HE HAS NO CONECTION T0!!!!!!!!
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Post by wildshadow on Jan 5, 2008 19:35:51 GMT -5
Why do u hate this idea so much wildfire... just because some fans r speculating about something that isn't strictly canon, what's w/ getting so worked up?
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Post by WILD on Jan 5, 2008 19:38:48 GMT -5
ru a crow x leaf hater, wildfire?
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Post by chellurton on Jan 5, 2008 19:40:39 GMT -5
Crowfeather CAN swim. He just prefers being dry, and isn't a very graceful swimmer. If you were a warrior and saw some kit drowning wouldn't you help? I would.
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Post by cresentleaf on Jan 7, 2008 17:25:20 GMT -5
LOOK EVERYONE HAS THERE OWN OPION OF THIS MATTER!
BUT IM TAKING GENETICS AND LOOK AT ON EOF THE ALLIGENCIES OF THE FIRST SERIES ON TIGERSTAR , IT SAYS <u>DARK BROWN TABBY PELT</u>
Hollypaw and Jaypaw both have BLACK AND GRAY NOT BROWN pelts , and crowfeather has a pelt like theres.
im not saying im throwing out the idea all together but whould it kill you to open up to the idea?
dont hate something just cause you think you know the right answer wildfire.
(sorry if i mispelled anything my keyboard sucks)
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Post by o w l {y}™ on Jan 8, 2008 20:25:32 GMT -5
↑↑↑ From Wildfire's post. Hollypaw's pelt is black...Brambleclaw's is a brown with tabby patterns. Also, Jaypaw's pelt is grey...like Crowfeather. And yes Cloudtail's eyes are blue but Cloudtail is related to Leafpool also. Just letting you guys know!
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Post by wildfire on Jan 9, 2008 12:19:12 GMT -5
ok wildshadow, that's a little more than a few fans.I guess the real reason I don't like the leaf+crow=jay & holly because I think so logically. yea, I know that's a weird reason and you're probably like, "WHAT!!?? JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T THINK IT'S LOGICAL!!??" but that's pretty much it. You might think that's a dumb reason, but sometimes, simple reasons are the best. and I never said I hated LeafxCrow, I just feel like it's over. I move on from things pretty fast, which is exspressed when I forgave Brambleclaw like, immediately, and when I forgave Squirrelflight pretty fast too (I didn't like how she wouldn't even let Brambleclaw apologize in Starlight) and I'm pretty much a 'stick to the book' person so that's why I don't believe in the rumor (plus, there's no solid evidence behind it)and I argue so much because I don't get why you guys believe in it. seriously, why do you believe in it, there isn't any solid facts behind it, and you keep telling me there are but you just say the same things over and over. I just feel like it's an empty cause. I keep telling you solid facts (which you try to prove with the facts I disproved them with) and you just ignore them. Well, I've listened to all your facts, and they pretty much didn't surmount to anything. Well, since it's clear that you guys won't listen to reason, I think I'll just quit arguing (is that spelled right?) with you and let you do whatever. so nevermind whatever my posts said, I'm just gonna pack it in (<--- that was a really weird thing of me to say) so basically, my only posts will be not related to 'leaf+crow=holly&jay doesn't exist anymore'. enjoy
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Post by cresentleaf on Jan 10, 2008 17:41:09 GMT -5
i belive in the holly&jay from leaf=crow because it makes sense!
so much happens between series , and who knows what happened between leapool and crowfeather when they ran away?
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